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Ok...so about the time Holtz hunted Angekus and Darla, he would be middle-aged, like 30-45, agreed? So when he was brought back by Sahjhan to present-day, he was the same age. And then when he went to Quor-Toth that same age. But when he came back, he looked as if he had aged at least 40 years, whereas Connor had only aged 15-20. What's up with that?

Anyone else think this article paints Holtz with a harsh brush? I don't think he was ever evil, and one can argue his motives were justice, not revenge.

His motives were absolutely revenge. Justice had already been served when Angel was cursed with a soul. Holtz was intent on killing him regardless. This is compounded by the fact that Angel was now fighting on the side of good. Holtz's attempts to hinder that make him a bad guy. Also, please remember to sign your posts.--OzzMan 13:13, February 12, 2012 (UTC)

Citation 11

Does anybody know what episode citation 11 is supposed to be? FTWinchester (talk) 17:32, January 16, 2014 (UTC)

Helllo? FTWinchester (talk) 17:08, January 17, 2014 (UTC) 

It's "Sleep Tight". It was meant to join with the 7th citation but the name must didn't match up.

Ownerman logo 05:12, January 18, 2014 (UTC)

I see. I was beginning to think no one would respond. Thanks. FTWinchester (talk) 05:19, January 18, 2014 (UTC)