All posts by JesseSs12

Sorry @IzzyLightwood28, i didn't talk about you, @Callhell said tvd witches are average and need a coven to create dimensions, while buffyverse ones create dimensions without much effort, that's just what he meant, in one of his lines. The witches of the Salvatore school created two dimensions with the twins and Hope, this in itself indicated that other witches can create material, and spiritual dimensions as well besides Qetsyah the witches of New Orleans created the ancestral plane.

@IzzyLightwood28 the Bennetts Witches (Qetsyah,Bonnie and others) created the five hunters, immortals and were related to the creation of prison worlds, other side, and original vampires it makes no sense to say that they are average they are involved in hundreds of mysteries of the series, they basically are the whole plot of the series it makes no sense to say that they are average, weak witches or that any witch can do what they did.

something else that is not true and I have not commented, gods are not the progenitors of magic, it has always been nature she creates, controls and monitors, the use of magic, so it creates loopholes to destroy beings like Malivore, the gods only had the knowledge of it and used it to keep themselves above the rest. humans for millennia before Ben released magic to humans, and Ken started to fear that witches would reach the level of gods, which really happened so he started turning them into monsters, don't you understand the story? If had understood, wouldn't have said so many meaningless things.

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Anyway, I won't discuss this subject anymore. I even believed that you were acting innocently and being rude because you were defending what you believed in, but then lying to prove these ideas? you exaggerated, anyway it's not worth discussing do you believe what you want, and you lie either @Callhell? it gets ironic.

Death didn't claim anyone, Lynn it just said that Ken cursed her to take the souls to Valhalla besides being rude are you also a liar? She said that nature placed limits on the gods because they broke the rules and came to the human world. And wow, did you say common witches? Kai Parker absorbed an entire barrier and Josie received dark magic from Malivore himself, if that's not enough dark magic for you what is? The average or amateur TVD witches you mentioned were Qetsyah who had in drops of blood the power of a celestial event, The Ancestral Witches who were the strongest in black magic and voodoo, and of course the Gemini Coven dimensions were created because first to do anything they needed the leader and without the leader they die don't you understand the function of a coven? First Gods weren't all that as I've repeated countless times, they're just immortals with no apparent loophole to be reversed, with the power to control magic, their only flaw was that they couldn't take away Hope's immortality or create a weapon for her. destroy it because the rules were clear either they used red oak, the cure, or they used the witch who created the originals to reverse Hope's vampirism, and they had none of those three options. tvd's rules were clear about this. Cleo channeled the spear in battle every time she used magic her eyes glowed and in battle she channeled the spear which glowed gold when she channeled the spear and what was there? he guesses? the magic of another god! the only weapon to kill another god, you know so much right? And to make matters worse, the siphon breach worked against Ken, yes, he controlled how much power he let out of his body. Lizzie mentioned that she was able to take magic out of him because she had trained, like she did with Jen right before the last episode, after Jem throw the coffin at Hope too, you have amnesia right? In addition to being a liar, he is also an amnesiac.

Yes I know, he is like me some time ago, I created many discussions about what I believed no matter how much evidence there was about the content in the discussions, I think he is not looking to create intrigue he is just defending what he believes , but there are many details besides the evidence and small observations that each user takes we can't have a very clear answer in some situations, but TVDU is very accurate in creating stories to define the most powerful, and certainly the witches are at the Apex for more that are mortal and physically inferior.

I just wanted to understand, I believed the Old Ones were superior beings like Glory, I didn't mean she was a demon I just made an observation of what I believed was due to demons being ruled by the Old Ones on earth, and Glory ruling a hellish dimension I thought they were the same kind of definition of power you know? But now it's clarified, thank you.

anyway I won't argue anymore, there's no need, every time I give you a truthful answer with what we've already seen in the series, you'll try to create meaningless exits you're in Buffy's fandom discussing TVD can you understand the point you've reached? first you said that gods were unbeatable in case you didn't understand an immortal witch can stop the gods if hope was already dangerous being three species unable to die and with dangerous magic for being an imaginal Firstborn if ken fought a siphoner who drank the Silas' elixir an immortal siphon? I wanted to see Ken last long. Qetsyah alone with her raw power created a dimension out of revenge for Silas and Amara's betrayal, did you say witches can die from getting too much magic? Dahlia slept every hundred years to increase her power for a thousand years, and the Hollow absorbed sacrificial magic for 1500 years she already had absurd power coming from two powerful bloodlines, received fractions of magic during the months of her mother's pregnancy and after 1500 she received sacrificial magic from her cults around the world do you understand the story of her being hollow? there was no limit to her storing magic, you just tell facts one more time to give invincibility to your favorite character, and disfavor the other one you don't like with half stories.

The gods are not that powerful, they are just immortal and have extreme strength, Ken needed Aurora to be able to kill Hope, and she only lost in the first fight because she didn't know how to channel him, and yes witches can beat the gods if you didn't realize all those monsters were witches that Ken had to curse because they were reaching the power level of the gods and average witches can die if they use too much magic the only ones who died were Bonnie and Kai said Josie could die if she wasn't strong enough l to withstand all the black magic he received. Ken also said that there are gods who are born with few powers, which was the case with Jen, that's why he rejected her and the gods' powers are not many, they are just innate abilities that they can use such as making rain, casting curses, or breaking curses (the Ken's power was only two, casting and breaking curses, controlling the weather... flying, extreme strength, and regeneration, reading thoughts and manipulating memories just that, he didn't even have superhuman speed, were common abilities of the other gods, or could resurrect the dead, another impressive detail that explains why they couldn't bring Ken's mate from the dead. how were they invincible if nature gave them limits? you slipped into another detail, they didn't even create the dimension they lived a witch demonstrated the ability to create afterlife worlds, the Ancestors too, and Arcadius, and the gods couldn't, they weren't invincible if the witches could channel and absorb the their magic, the weapon to kill them was their own magic, surprised? ) Many have tried to argue that he has various powers but he hasn't shown anything beyond that, he couldn't resurrect the dead, couldn't go back in time those were apparently powers specific to the other gods, besides you despised Lynn's speech Ken's sister said there were limits to them since they left their world the Valhala or peace the home of the gods , and as I have repeated and will repeat again the gods are not that powerful they just have extreme physical senses as Jen has shown to be much stronger physically than an original, plus the fact that Ken doesn't could kill Hope without the red oak, he even tried but said numerous times in the episode that it was difficult to kill her and that she "refused to die", in addition to the fact that soon after Lizzie managed to channel Ken, and Cleo her. spear in order to kill him, and even that witches could not do because he prevented them from absorbing their god magic.

there would never be a winner between the two if they are liable to be defeated in their own universes, imagine fighting each other in parallel realities, you simply use the favoritism of your favorite character and use arguments that point out what you don't like will lose, there is no winner, this discussion is unnecessary.

You simply argued nonsense since the TVDU was explaining the origin of witches this season it became clear that all witches are surmountable and they were established by nature to surpass immortals, Dahlia, Hollow, Qetsyah, Sther, Hope are examples they came to levels of power to destroy and create extremely powerful immortal beings, Klaus, Silas and Ken, basically only witches are invincible because they can increase their magic, gods have shown several times that they are fragile and are under the limit of nature as Ken's sister said . In the buffyverse things don't work like that, the purpose is precisely the confrontation of light and darkness, witches are innate and can increase their powers but there are consequences in TVDU there are no consequences, and there are also limits there are powerful witches who, even though they are very powerful, cannot fighting a slayer for example, Willow only succeeded because she used dark magic. And both universes have their peculiarities Buffyverse is cosmic/spiritual beings gods and demons being superior, in TVDU the superiors are witches and vampires is how gods were included because they had no more ideas to entertain the audience, now you want to compare and say that witches from TVDU are weaker than those from the buffyverse? or mean that Willow is capable of defeating vampires when she couldn't even fight a slayer in the buffyverse itself? both universes are complex there will never be a winner if the rules are slippery within the main own realities of each imagine in a mix? you do not know anything.

stop arguing this is entertainment fandom and you guys argue for two parallel series? In the buffyverse Willow wins for being a very powerful witch, in TVDU Hope for being an original and tribrid, that's not necessary, all you know? all you are arguing and getting offended by unnecessary things both characters are bisexual as much as would happen if it was a mixed universe Buffy and TVD both would be struggling without a victor until they have a crush on each other and become a couple, all this discussion is unnecessary , I love them both they are amazing characters and their personality is that of good women so they would hardly fight at most they would become friends.

It wouldn't make sense anyway (Is he 53? would it make sense for a young vampire to be that age 20 years later? It would be weird), unless they used CGI to rejuvenate the actors (Angel and Spike?), or he was cured of vampirism living a human life with Buffy? which would be better suited for a cameo, I still think they'll reboot Buffy even if it takes a while. I don't think it will happen now because the series ended in the 2000s and it's about to complete 20 years away from the end, and at most it can gain strength to be restarted in about 10 years?, as there have been a lot of reboot cancellations at the moment. I confess I was curious about the last project being a sequel in the buffyverse, about a slayer being a black girl and a new scooby gang instead of an official reboot with a new buffy, I hope it works and doesn't fail like the Charmed reboot.

I understand, so magic is not that advantageous, I saw that fight between Willow and Buffy and I imagined that there could be this possibility but there is not much chance, apparently the witches at this point are weak.

Willow she is able to physically fight a Slayer like Buffy, a tribrid wouldn't be a problem for her, even more that her magic compares to a god in some magazines, and Hope is no match for gods apparently she is weak, should the question be Hope vs Buffy? I'd like to see that Buffy fights a lot! I think Hope would take a good beating, and Buffy would only be disadvantaged by Hope's witch side, are Slayer vulnerable to magic in combat? Buffy fought a witch in season one, but the question remains.

it was more for the script itself, they wanted to bring her in many other stories I think that was the goal, but I confess that Buffy hesitated many times, for me she could have killed Drusilla right after she killed Kendra.